Things that are different are not the same. Lutherans, Episcopalians, Catholics, many Pentecostals, Church of Christ etc teach that works in some form are necessary to get or maintain salvation.

Things that are different are not the same. Lutherans, Episcopalians, Catholics, many Pentecostals, Church of Christ etc teach that works in some form are necessary to get or maintain salvation.

February 10, 2021 Uncategorized 0

Jim Curran

This is a Baptist history page for a reason- Things that are different are not the same. Lutherans, Episcopalians, Catholics, many Pentecostals, Church of Christ etc teach that works in some form are necessary to get or maintain salvation. Apostolics deny the trinity. Many of these denominations deny cardinal doctrines of the Bible and are lost in theological liberalism. This is not truth but the doctrines of men. Baptists have always held that the Bible is the only rule for faith and for practice. The others hold some sort of dual authority- rather tradition, reason, an authority/ hierarchy, or additional revelation. There is ample evidence that has been presented in this group to show that Baptists trace a linage back to Christ not the apostate Catholic church as do all the Protestants.

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Someone Just Asked This question! … “The big question is why are so many Baptists ignorant of our history and barely any Christian schools run out of Baptist churches teach it?”

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Someone Just Asked This question! … “The big question is why are so many Baptists ignorant of our history and barely any Christian schools run out of Baptist churches teach it?”

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  • Tina Brown SutherlandDoes this question make sense? If it does, I am not seeing it.4
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  • Rodney DurrettWhy is no history of the greatest nation ever built in this world, no longer taught?You can’t take people away from their historical roots if they know their history, but if they don’t they can easily be manipulated to corrupt teachings.5
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  • Jonathan MeltonBaptist history is being taught as long the Bible is preached correct?7
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    • Robert P Mahoney SrJonathan Melton, not necessarily and The Whole Truth hasn’t been taught or preached among or within all Denominations and organized bodies of professed believers…1
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    • Jonathan MeltonRobert P Mahoney Sr that was supposed to be a statement not a question. I just noticed my error. As long as the Bible is taught correctly then Baptist history is being taught.
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  • Dennis Tabitha HidalgoMine teaches it2
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    • Robert P Mahoney SrDennis Tabitha Hidalgo, Baptist??? Very doubtful, unless The Congregation is less than 50 or so?
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    • Robert P Mahoney SrNo main stream Organizations are teaching Unadulterated Truth…. Even the One with The Truth has and is compromising…
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    • Dennis Tabitha HidalgoYes we are an unapologetic Baptist church who teaches Baptist history. One of the books I received after joining was Trail of Blood. We preach the King James Bible and sing hymns. We have a congregation of 150. You’re welcome to come see for yourself i… See More
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  • Roger Fulk“Ignorance of Baptist heritage, which is so infectious in our pulpits and pews today, is dangerous and must be over come with a renewed teaching of our Baptist heritage and heroes of past generations.”Brother Beller was the most prolific Baptist hist… See MorePRAIRIEFIREPRESS.COMPrairie Fire PressPrairie Fire Press9
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  • Retchie CandongoMy question is why many Baptists are Calvinists?5
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    • Craig SipeRetchie Candongo because they are no longer baptist…….But, this question and statement starts quite a few fights.2
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    • Roger FulkYes they are! And that is another good question! We teach against Calvinism in this group, but we will not debate with them, because debating is against the rules!5
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    • Roger FulkCraig Sipe and we will stop the arguments and debating!2
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    • Retchie CandongoRoger FulkThey share common attitude. They are proud and arrogant not knowing they misrepresent God.
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    • Craig SipeRoger Fulk I am not arguing, just making an observation. I know that in itself lends to arguing and debating. No desire to be in violation of the rules.3
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    • Roger FulkCraig Sipe …. yes I understand! And people do learn anytime these types of questions come up! I appreciate your concern! But we work hard at keeping things under control and in a group this size we know gthat there are some really good people who … See More2
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    • Samaroo SookrajRetchie Candongo real baptists are not Calvinist but believers in the sovereign grace of God and the perpetuity of the Lord’s kind of churches.
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  • Phil SenBecause so many schools use only mainstream Protestant teaching curricula that try to appeal across as many denominations as possible to achieve as much repeat annual sales as possible. Just like the colleges that several areproduced from.7
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  • Jim Jake TemplinBecause Baptists have always placed a greater emphasis on Christian Evangelicalism than either denominational importance or historical education. All is secondary to salvation5
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    • Robert P Mahoney SrJim Jake Templin, Why do they follow popery and paganism??? They didn’t use to, year’s ago.. Particularly in the onslaught of Americanism…
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    • Lamar Tiger JohnsonRobert P Mahoney Sr i can see you did not grow up in a baptist church where they taught 2 things.. kj bible and soul winning to carry the gospel to the community. Very little was ever preached or asked for tithe or money. People gave out of love…the … See More1
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  • Lamar Tiger JohnsonAt one time they did….it was a new members class called These things we believe…it was a history of the Baptist church.2
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  • Carmen MarinaBecause to teach accurate Baptist history would mean to place several denominations in a very negative light.8
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    • Retchie CandongoCarmen MarinaAgree. The history would also expose the issues of Protestants not just the Catholicism3
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    • Haglund MartyCarmen, In what specific way would teaching accurate Baptist History put “several denominations in a very negative light”,..?1
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  • Wayne BlanchardI was raised Southern Baptist and Baptist history was not taught, Old Testament history was, but not Baptist history. It was after I was grown that I came across a little book, “These things we believe”, that I started researching it on my own, and I w… See More5
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    • Haglund MartyWayne….seems like long ago and too far away, but once upon a time Southern Baptists had what was called “Church Training” which is where much of Baptist History was taught. It was there where I was introduced to “The Trail of Blood” and “These thin… See More1
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    • Wayne BlanchardHaglund Marty I remember Church Training from when I was very young, I think it was called “Training Union”, and it was held on Sunday night, but by the time I was old enough to understand any of it, it was dropped in favor of a short evening service, … See More1
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  • Derek GrantThe Essentials Are Taught, and it’s hard enough to get people to Read the Bible in its Entirety. For example “How Many People other than those who go to some Theological/Seminary School have honestly Read All the Psalms and All the Provebs” Most quote… See More3
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    • Carmen MarinaDerek Grant Baptist pastors should set aside some preaching time for our history, I believe. But I understand your point.1
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    • Derek GrantCarmen Marina Thanks for the acknowledgement, Baptist is a man made denomination of many within the Christian Church. Christ invented the Church so let’s go deep and Teach “Christ His-Story”. For Example “Shadows and Types – How … See More
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    • Carmen MarinaDerek Grant I get your point but I have a more narrow view of the Baptist designation as applied to the local, independent, Biblical, New Testament church model as opposed to the centrally-governed, “corporate” church structure that claims the baptist … See More
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    • Derek GrantCarmen Marina Narrow View is Right, for the Gospel teaches us “Enter by the Narrow Gate, for Wide is the Gate and Broad is the Way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the Gate and difficult is the way which… See More
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    • Simon WattsThat is where we are at. It is hard enough getting believers to read their Bibles. Nailed it.
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    • Tãbärés EJ TabaresBecause now is more to spent the good news of salvation to the lost people probably there are some Pastor to study about history speciall THE TRAIL OF BLOOD BLOOD and me i also know something about history that the true Christian is begin from Christ … See More
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    • Samaroo SookrajDerek Grant that “man made denomination” has a name that had a baptism from Heaven, not of man. A baptism that, because the true Christians insisted on performing as the Bible requires, had the name anabaptist (rebaptizers) cast upon them in scorn. The… See More
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    • Derek GrantSamaroo Sookraj Thanks for the Information but Early Christian’s were from the Jewish Faith and the followers of Christ were calle “Of The Way” the term Christian was first used in Antioch. That’s what I do know. Terms like Lutheran, Pentecostal, COGIC… See More
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    • Jim CurranDerek Grant This is a Baptist history page for a reason- Things that are different are not the same. Lutherans, Episcopalians, Catholics, many Pentecostals, Church of Christ etc teach that works in some form are necessary to get or maintain salvation. Apostolics deny the trinity. Many of these denominations deny cardinal doctrines of the Bible and are lost in theological liberalism. This is not truth but the doctrines of men. Baptists have always held that the Bible is the only rule for faith and for practice. The others hold some sort of dual authority- rather tradition, reason, an authority/ hierarchy, or additional revelation. There is ample evidence that has been presented in this group to show that Baptists trace a linage back to Christ not the apostate Catholic church as do all the Protestants.1
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  • Benjamin Edward JordanI was grown before I knew our Baptist history. I am now able to attend seminary and it is taught there, Louisiana Missionary Baptist Institute and Seminary. Good school!5
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  • Steve’n Susan LeCroneAn accurate and careful study of the broad sweep of Baptist history based on source material is hard work. I think the results make some folks uncomfortable. Also, the last century has bequeathed us a man-centered view of the universe, as opposed to … See More2
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    • Derek GrantSteve’n Susan LeCrone We can easily be caught up in a Debate of Philosophical Opinions and Doctrinal Differences , that’s why I say stay in the Bible “Christ His-Story” not a history of one of many man made denominations of the Church. When That Day C… See More
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    • Steve’n Susan LeCroneDerek, thank you for your insight, my friend. I do agree that all our faith is based on God’s precious word, and it is by that we shall be judged. I do believe that, not neglecting God’s word, we may benefit from the study of church history. The Spirit… See More3
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  • Ciriaco FilogWe PREACH THE GOSPEL OF GRACE JESUS CHRIST ONLY but not neglecting the rest even the smallest or minial thing. It is all our development unto Christlikeness.. Shalom
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  • Samuel GarciaThere aren’t Baptist history textbooksMost Baptists don’t care for history1
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    • Eddie VigilThere are actually.. Contending for the Faith by Robert Ashcraft
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    • Wayne WigginsThe Baptist Heritage by Leon Mcbeth is good.
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  • Carmen YbañezOur pastor here in the Philippines shared with us how it started in the time of Jesus.3
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  • Jovs Noluasbecause we’re too busy preaching the gospel to the lost and Christ-likeness to those who are saved. saved people just have a different focus. our hope is in God and not in men.2
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  • Simon WattsThe same question must be asked in everything pertaining to how God has raised the nations up to where they are now.Church history is neglected.The history of our laws are neglected.… See More7
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    • Roger FulkSimon Watts … Thanks for your comment! Yes … thanks why history is being attacked everywhere you look …. Sad but true!  That why we teach Baptist Church History!4
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    • Evans JumbaSimon Watts I concur1
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  • Roger Fulk“Major Causes of Problems in the Church”. In a nutshell … THE ROOT CAUSE IS … a SPIRITUAL, a HEART AND an IGNORANCE PROBLEM …>>>>>>>>> AND A SOLUTION <<<<<<<<< How to stop all this confusion out there!“Most Christians do not read the Bible. Many Ch… See MorePRAIRIEFIREPRESS.COMCollegiate Baptist History WorkbookCollegiate Baptist History Workbook9
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    • Carmen MarinaRoger Fulk sadly, as you know, most Baptists don’t realize we’re not protestant. Not to mention the rest of the world. One reason I believe it’s important to teach our true history.3
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    • Bobby AllenCarmen Marina Ain’t that the truth. Alot are only Baptist by name and most don’t even know why they are even Baptist2
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  • Michael CoxCould you you reword the question so it makes more sense, Roger?
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    • Jon McKeoneThe phrase “run out of Baptist churches” was parethetical and should have been preceeded and followed by a comma. Does that help to clarify?1
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  • Jon McKeoneOne of the key elements is to reveal the lie many believe, that Baptists are just another protestant denomination.3
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  • Spencer Shawi dont think baptist care about church history1
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  • Delbert CanrightIt’s sad that many people do not know why they are Baptists, and as a result, they do not know how to defend their faith Biblically.Baptist History/Distinctives surely need to be taught in our churches.We are unique in what we believe…but we need t… See More5
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  • Yumi FloresI just want the admin to continue posting abt baptist history.Most churches who remove “baptist” in their name are sure no knowledge or its a sign of disregarding their baptist heritage.3
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  • Naples Saintsmore focusing on Christian living, applications, exhortaions, so called soul winning just to say they are obeying The Great Commission to the letter… that is why many Baptists today believe that Roman Catholic Cult is the original Church of the Lord… See More1
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  • Kl Paulson1st generation has the fire to teach Baptist History … the 2nd generation takes it for granted plain and simple. They are not willing to pay the price for books and other media resources.1
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  • Sergie MaisoSome pastors are lazy to study and understand our history in the philippines some baptist pastors are focused on buildings business in other words materialism.thank God their are few who stand teach and not compromise.4
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  • Ranjel GatchalianI dont believe that there are some Pastors in the Philippines who did not teach ” Baptist History” the unbroken chain of Church History.2
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  • Elmer ChavezThose Baptists who do not know yet about Baptist History are might those who are just newly members of Baptist churches and nobody has the right to call them ignorant. Soon they might also be taught of Baptist History.The main book to look if you wam… See More5
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  • Boniejun Lopez TayirOur pastor preach it we don’t know the other baptist if they preach it or not but even the pastor preach it brother there are some not listening they are busy for nothing so some baptist easy converted to other relegions some are backsliding because we… See More2
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  • Emmanuel JirehBecause they were not preaching baptist but Jesus Christ
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  • Phil MissionsThe reason is because so many Baptists have departed already from our Baptists heritage, and have adopted protestant doctrines instead.4
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  • Mark Jacob Dumilag OcampoWhich one now is the original Baptist? To those who know the History,
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  • Pablo Ody BentrezYes sir. True history should also be taught in church not only in Bible School. Here in our church although we are few we share what we learned in Baptist history. And this fb can help us too. Thank you sir.
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  • Nancy MuirIT’S NOT PREACHED IN MY CHURCH1
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  • Roger FulkAppendix B Ten Affirmations Concerning Our Baptist HeritagePage 262, “The Collegiate Baptist History Workbook”, by James R. Beller. Prairie Fire Press, Copyright 2002, Second Edition Copyright 2005, Third Printing 2006… See MorePRAIRIEFIREPRESS.COMCollegiate Baptist History WorkbookCollegiate Baptist History Workbook1
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  • Victoria Anne King-HarveyOne of the first things I did was study Church History. I don’t trust denominationalism because it is too much like Catholicism which is all about traditionalism.
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  • Jim CurranTo understand what has happened in a brief yet comprehensive form I Highly recommend this book by James Beller- Sacred Betrayal. Originally this was entitled “The Coming Destruction of the Baptist People” It explains what happened within Homeschool/ Ch… See More1
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  • Jamal BisharaIgnorance. I am Baptist and i study all writing regularly. Don’t make general statement though about all. Do you want me to speak about any particular tradition I am willing. I love the Christian history and the tradion. I honor it.
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  • Jim CurranThis is a warning- This is not a debate group and generally with a subject like this we will get a few pop up in here and say that we are being too divisive for teaching Baptist history and Biblical Baptist doctrine – This is an open group so they woul… See More1
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    • Roger FulkJim Curran very well put! The same thing happens every time this subject and Calvinism comes up (and a few other subjects)! Fortunately some people are able to see some of what goes on in a group like this. Thanks fvor speakinbg out!
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  • Roger FulkHere are the group rules for everyone to read or reread! https://www.facebook.com/…/baptistchurchhi…/manage_rulesBaptist Church HistoryBaptist Church History1
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  • Roger FulkGroup Rules from the AdminsUpdated December 10, 2020 UPDATED Feb 3, 2021(1) .. The purpose of this group is to be a teaching and learning group and is about Historical Baptist Church History, Historical Baptist Distinctives and Historical Baptist New… See More1
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  • Creighton E StephensThe Faithful Baptist Witness by Phil Stringer
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  • David FranciscoJesus saves not the church.
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  • Ranjel GatchalianTo Pastor who stated that there are some Pastors in the Philippines who ignore to teach Baptist History.. pls. Be careful to your statement..Baptist History is one of the major teachings here in the Philippines as far as you know…3
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    • Jim CurranRanjel Gatchalian To be honest we see the same thing in the US- some churches do some don’t- I have actually told a couple of pastors some of the history of their church!1
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  • Nashon MuhandoMany Pastors from other denominations join Baptist Churches and bring in their foreign teachings that mislead the Baptists.I’ve seen this happen in my Conversation and still does. We need to call to our Churches true Baptist Pastors to keep our History… See More
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Roger Fulk posted Travels in Baptist History – Unit Announcement – 02/10/2021.Admin  · 6h  · Jim Curran AdminTravels in Baptist HistoryI will be starting a series tomorrow called “Travels in Baptist History” where I will be sharing sites around the country that I have visited. (I hope to hit some more once spring and summer hits) This will alternate with the book reviews I have been running- Tomorrow will be on Samuel Harriss who is buried near where I live.UNIT 41 • TRAVELS IN BAPTIST HISTORYTravels in Baptist HistorySee Unit15You, Hillis Waddell, Jesse Schorle and 12 others1 ShareLikeCommentShareCommentsWrite a public comment…
Jim CurranAdmin  · 7h  · Travels in Baptist HistoryI will be starting a series tomorrow called “Travels in Baptist History” where I will be sharing sites around the country that I have visited. (I hope to hit some more once spring and summer hits) This will alternate with the book reviews I have been running- Tomorrow will be on Samuel Harriss who is buried near where I live.Added by Admin Team#travels_in_baptist_history_jim_curran9You, Barry Farley, JC Pretta and 6 othersLikeCommentShareCommentsWrite a public comment…
Roger Fulk shared a link.Admin  · February 8 at 12:40 PM  · I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU READ THIS SHORT STATEMENT FOR YOUR EDIFICATION!Appendix B Ten Affirmations Concerning Our Baptist HeritagePage 262, “The Collegiate Baptist History Workbook”, by James R. Beller. Prairie Fire Press, Copyright 2002, Second Edition Copyright 2005, Third Printing 2006Baptists are ancient, and our ancestry can be traced through the vital principles established and set forth by our Lord Jesus Christ and His disciples in New Testament churches.See MorePRAIRIEFIREPRESS.COMCollegiate Baptist History WorkbookBeing used in Christian Schools, Home schools and colleges across the country. <a href=”http://21tnt.com/guide/”>Click Here</a> to download quiz, test and study guide.36You, Hillis Waddell, Jesse Schorle and 33 others1 Comment19 SharesLoveCommentShareCommentsPablo Ody BentrezAmen!1Like · Reply · Share · 8hWrite a public comment…
Roger FulkAdmin  · February 8 at 11:35 AM  · We want to welcome 22 new approved members this past week! Welcome to all the new members! 52 were not approved at this time for various reasons based on group rules! This is an open group for anyone to look at and read … feel free to come back and visit often. And feel free to re-apply!55You, John Whitten, Jesse Schorle and 52 others12 Comments1 ShareLoveCommentShareCommentsView 10 more commentsHaglund MartyWelcome.Like · Reply · Share · 22hElsie GuillermoWelcome!!Like · Reply · Share · 18hWrite a public comment…
Roger FulkAdmin  · February 7 at 1:59 PM  · WHY DO YOU TEACH BAPTIST CHURCH HISTORY AND CAN YOU GIVE ME SCRIPTURES TO BACK IT UP!(Missing) Image may contain: text that says ‘Biblical Distinctives of BAPTISTS Biblical Authority Autonomy of the Local Church Priesthood of All Believers Two Ordinances Individual Soul Liberty Saved, Baptized Church Membership Two Offices Separation of Church and State’Thomas E Kresal January 15, 2019 ·Why Study Baptist HistoryShort answer: The vast majority of “Christendom” is a masquera… See More57You, Michael Brawner, Jesse Schorle and 54 others29 Comments14 SharesLikeCommentShareCommentsView 9 more commentsDarrell Lee SennThen theres the churches where you go and if you arent dressed according to Their standards. ..then…they treat you like a homeless bum.they dont go pick them up for church if they need a ride when their vehicle breaks down. Or allow them to attend th… See More1Sad · Reply · Share · 2dJim CurranDarrell Lee Senn I would dare say that I have been in more churches than 95% of people in this group when I was a home missionary. I saw a little bit of everything- some things I certainly scratched my head about and a few that I shook my head at too. … See More1Like · Reply · Share · 1d · EditedView 1 more replyDarrell Lee SennThese are some good questions to ask yourself if you are a leader in your church…1Like · Reply · Share · 2dRoger Fulk replied ·1 ReplyView 4 more comments

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