{"id":17404,"date":"2024-04-04T14:31:19","date_gmt":"2024-04-04T18:31:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/awarningministry.com\/?p=17404"},"modified":"2024-04-04T14:33:38","modified_gmt":"2024-04-04T18:33:38","slug":"dave-hunt-question-you-say-calvinists-teach-that-god-is-the-author-of-sin-dave-this-is-a-falsehood","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/awarningministry.com\/index.php\/2024\/04\/04\/dave-hunt-question-you-say-calvinists-teach-that-god-is-the-author-of-sin-dave-this-is-a-falsehood\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;DAVE HUNT &#8220;Question: You say, \u201c&#8230;Calvinists teach that God is the author of sin&#8230;.\u201d Dave, this is a falsehood&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p style=\"text-align:center\" class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/awarningministry.com\/?s=CALVINISM#page-content\"><strong>You searched for CALVINISM &#8211; Earnestly Contend For The Faith Jude 3 (awarningministry.com)<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net\/v\/t39.30808-6\/434085183_1673700390124919_1050507615280403733_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&amp;ccb=1-7&amp;_nc_sid=5f2048&amp;_nc_ohc=A7zDjq5EhBsAb4DCL1V&amp;_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&amp;oh=00_AfAmKf0s7T2VWvFceCw61fBpGWoMGddYy3oxFcMPAHGY2w&amp;oe=6614BDF2\" alt=\"May be an image of text that says 'OVE 2 CALVINISM'S MISREPRESENTATION OF FGOD GOD'\"\/><figcaption> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/photo\/?fbid=1673700400124918&amp;set=gm.2382029075316388&amp;idorvanity=307022612817055\">Facebook<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" style=\"text-align:center\" id=\":r7gm:\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/307022612817055\/user\/100024549211531\/?__cft__[0]=AZVJLPKFl997DEkfVnUT6wNvcxvqgnwbEoL5pzQitQa4hkjb41bikEX8C4ttLvGPQiq8K0XM6Y0jKf9DEpLYgVDf-VbhJsvmOA5HZLO2ZI2jYcgbYunPPEz-nUPybpVFAFYIoNFfDJ4gTzFQFUBP_q0pIWdg4PFkbIKEhFAxKfL_GGgYQNCGgqiYuFfibJDSmqQ&amp;__tn__=-UC%2CP-R\"><strong>Michael Paul Clough<\/strong><\/a> &#8211;  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/photo\/?fbid=1673700400124918&amp;set=gm.2382029075316388&amp;idorvanity=307022612817055\">Facebook<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Admin Top Contributor\u00a0\u00a0\u00b7\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/307022612817055\/?multi_permalinks=2382453711940591&amp;notif_id=1712253099962850&amp;notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&amp;ref=notif#\"><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u00b7\u00a0Post Courtesy of: &#8220;DAVE HUNT &#8220;Question: You say, \u201c&#8230;Calvinists teach that God is the author of sin&#8230;.\u201d Dave, this is a falsehood&#8230;That you are in error in this is so glaringly obvious I keep wondering why I have to keep pointing these things out to you&#8230;Calvinists indeed teach that God foreordains sin, that God decrees sin, that God is the cause of sin, but they also teach that this does not make God the author of sin&#8230;. That Calvinists teach that God is not the author of sin is an irrefutable statement of fact! Dave, I am not going to back off on this. You keep bringing up that Calvinists teach that God decrees everything, foreordains everything, causes everything, including sin, all of which are accurate. However, the Calvinists that teach these things also say and teach that this does not make God the author of sin. So once again I exhort you to please refrain from misrepresenting what Calvinists teach.  Answer: You agree that Calvinists \u201cindeed teach that God foreordains sin, that God decrees sin, that God is the cause of sin&#8230;.\u201d In spite of quoting Boettner (\u201cGod has foreordained the entire course of events in this world&#8230;\u201d), you claim, \u201cbut they also teach that this does not make God the author of sin.\u201d Could there be a clearer contradiction?  There are endless quotes to show Calvinism\u2019s teaching that God\u2019s \u201cforeknowledge amounts to necessity&#8230;he has decreed that [events] are so to happen&#8230;all events take place by his sovereign appointment\u201d (Institutes of the Christian Religion, III: xxiii, 6); \u201cGod wills all things that come to pass&#8230;God desired for man to fall into sin&#8230;God created sin.\u201d (R.C. 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To support this allegation you offer numerous quotes (which I know only too well) in which Calvinists insist that God is not the \u201cauthor\u201d of sin. I acknowledge that Calvinists don\u2019t directly say in so many words that God is the author of sin, but it is indisputable that they identify God as sin\u2019s author by their teaching that \u201cGod foreordains&#8230;decrees&#8230;and is the cause of sin.\u201d Webster\u2019s New Universal Unabridged Dictionary defines \u201cauthor\u201d as \u201cone who produces, creates, or brings into being; the beginner, creator, or first mover of anything.\u201d By this definition, Calvinism\u2019s God is unquestionably the author of sin! Can you explain how God can foreordain, decree and cause sin without being its author? 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