{"id":6367,"date":"2021-03-28T16:06:39","date_gmt":"2021-03-28T20:06:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/awarningministry.com\/?p=6367"},"modified":"2021-03-28T16:12:32","modified_gmt":"2021-03-28T20:12:32","slug":"d-b-ray-defines-church-and-kingdom-i-posted-a-statement-concerning-the-church-and-the-kingdom-with-claims-of-what-baptist-have-believed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/awarningministry.com\/index.php\/2021\/03\/28\/d-b-ray-defines-church-and-kingdom-i-posted-a-statement-concerning-the-church-and-the-kingdom-with-claims-of-what-baptist-have-believed\/","title":{"rendered":"D B Ray Defines Church and Kingdom, I posted a statement concerning the church and the kingdom with claims of what Baptist have believed."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"jsc_c_pb\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/242497449278745\/user\/1633618151\/?__cft__[0]=AZV_jrwabUxsmbKyGASBxXwzRubSAk6LynWO1dQp7-ys5DbjbjjsWs8LT_HE0T5d7eKSiw1P0nBAXGigrImymA_BQ8gYGYYLGEvPzE0MuJhYIbp_PSs54LraFZ1DPYErC3qjikR6CDnSraUn1hC46UkBOMuxORvd9UrKaTVQP5alme-0IDj9ab2sR2nGkATtX0o&amp;__tn__=-UC%2CP-R\">B Dwayne Hinson<\/a><\/strong>  Admin 03\/26\/21<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00a0D B Ray Defines Church and Kingdom, I posted a statement concerning the church and the kingdom with claims of what Baptist have believed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is one documented proof of accuracy of the claim.From \u201cThe Papal Controversy Involving the Claim of the Roman Catholic Church to be the Church of God\u201d by D B Ray, published 1892 documenting his debate with a Roman Catholic Priest. In D B Ray\u2019s First Negative response he defines a church and gives a brief explanation of the organic Kingdom of God on pages 19 &#8211; 22. We have included all nine parts of the definition, however part 9 gives the kingdom and church relationship but the first eight are needed to give context.  Some may say the Baptist of the past were WRONG in their church and kingdom doctrines, but to claim this position and adhere to biblical requirements of ordination is to negate the authority of Baptist ordinations for our ordinations would then derive their authority from churches who had corrupt doctrine of the church. How can a church be a New Testament church with New Testament authority while maintaining corrupt doctrine of the church itself? Let us be taught by our forefathers as we are commanded in the great commission in Matthew 28:19 and 20, for if we as men are to teach we as men are to have been taught by men. Were we taught by Baptist men or \u201cnon baptist\u201d though they claimed the name but changed the doctrine? We begin the quote: The true Church of God must be properly defined to be properly identified.  Ist . One who from infancy has been taught to call an elephant a sheep will just as honestly regard that animal as a true sheep as the man who knows the real sheep from all other animals. If one hundred different species, were called sheep, it would be all the more important to have a definition, or description, of a real sheep, in order to distinguish that animal from all the rest which are improperly called sheep. One who has been taught from infancy to call an eagle a dove would just as honestly regard the eagle as a dove as the one who has the correct knowledge of the dove. If one hundred different species of birds were called doves, it would be important to have a correct definition of the real dove, in order to distinguish it from the other so- called doves. In like manner, as there are more than a hundred different institutions called churches of God or the Church of God, it is absolutely necessary to have a correct definition, or description of the true church, in order to distinguish it from all the rest. 2. The supposed invisible, inorganic, undefinable, imaginary church has no place in this controversy. It is &#8221; the Roman Catholic Church\u201d and \u201cthe true Church of God\u201d \u2014 are they identical?  3, The large majority of the most intelligent citizens and professors of Christianity in the United States, and other en lightened countries, do not believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the true Church of God. Also, the overwhelming majority of Catholics themselves enter that Church in infancy, without their knowledge or consent. They become members of the Roman Church without the exercise of their reason judgment. And as Paul exhorts the Corinthian church &#8221; with all the saints\u201d to \u201cexamine yourselves whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves&#8221; ( 2 Cor. 13: 5 . ) it is the privilege and duty of all Catholics and non &#8211; Catholics to examine themselves whether or not they are in the true faith and &#8221; the true Church of God.\u201d Everyone must examine for himself.  4. This discussion amounts to [the] admission that there is a doubt of the Roman Catholic Church being the true Church of God. It is possible, therefore, that the claims of that Church are not substained by the revealed word of God. Further more, as the everlasting destiny of all Roman Catholics is suspended upon the supposed truth of this proposition, it be hooves them especially to examine their Church claims calmly and impartially, in the light of God&#8217;s Revelation.  5. All should enter this investigation as impartial jurymen should try the most important cases of life and death. This discussion involves the most momentous issues of this world. It involves the eternal destiny of men. Who is sufficient for these things? In view of the fearful responsibility involved in this discussion, let every one, Catholic and non &#8211; Catholic , enter this investigation without prejudice; and in the light of God&#8217;s word, in view of solemnities of the judgement of the last day, after weighing the testimony, let him render his verdict for the truth according to law and evidence.  6. The word church does not properly apply to a house made of brick and mortar, or stone. Such a building may be a &#8221; church house &#8221; but not a church. The word church in God&#8217;s Revelation is never applied to a consolidated hierarchy, whether universal or provincial. The application of the word church to the consolidated government called the Roman Catholic Church is wholly unscriptural. It is without warrant in the New Testament. The literal, primary and leading signification of the word church ( ekklesia ) is a congregation or assembly. When applied to the institution of Christ in the New Testament it means Christ&#8217;s assembly.  7. A church of Christ is an assembly of baptized believers associated together in the doctrine and fellowship of the Gospel This is the only literal meaning of a New Testament church. Every such local organization is a church of God and authorized to obey and administer his laws and ordinances.  8. Every such local church is fully authorized to administer the laws of the kingdom of Christ in its community, including the discipline of its membership. In the transaction of church business, such a local church is as completly independent of other churches, as though it were the only church of Christ on earth. From its New Testament decision there is no appeal. The final and last appeal of the one who had been trespassed against was to tell it unto the church. Matt. 18:17.  9. In addition to the primary literal meaning of &#8221; ekklesia \u201d to signify a single local assembly, as an integral part of the organic kingdom of Christ, the term church is used, by a common figure of speech, to represent the church institution, which may apply to the whole extent of the organic kingdom of Christ. When used in this figurative sense the term church is not confined to any one local organization. It means the church institution, as where one is taken to represent a class. When we say the lion is the king of beasts we do not wish to convey the idea that there is one universal lion composed of all the lions in the lower universe! We simply mean to speak of the lion as a species of animals. In the Scripture it is said, &#8221; the ox knoweth his owner.\u201d This does not mean one particular ox, neither does it mean a great universal ox, composed of all the oxen in the world! We speak of the jury as the bulwark of English liberty.\u201d We do not mean this to specify any one particular local jury, in some district in England, neither do we mean to point out a universal jury composed of all the juries of the world! We speak of the jury as a civil institution. In this sense, the jury has existed for centuries. In like manner, we speak of the church as an institution. In this figurative sense, we do not confine the term to any one local church, neither do we mean to point out a huge ecclesiasticism composed of all the churches. In this sense the Savior used the term church when he said: \u201cUp on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.\u201d Matt. 16:18. The Savior did not confine this prediction to the local assembly at Jerusalem. He referred to the church institution which should exist in the shape of local churches throughout all the coming ages. In this figurative sense, the term church must be understood in the proposition under discussion. The true church of God has reference to the true church institution established by Christ. Matt. 16:18. As the Roman Catholic Church is entirely different from the institution founded by Christ, it cannot possibly be the true church of God. End Quote <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>B Dwayne Hinson Admin 03\/26\/21 \u00a0D B Ray Defines Church and Kingdom, I posted a statement concerning the church and the kingdom with claims of what Baptist have believed. 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